There were several changes, the tone ring was much wider on the earlier model, the bell mandrel was different between the models and the angle of the second slide was flipped from forward to back. No the original Olds Super is an early model of Super and was quite different from the slightly later version of the Super manufactured a few years later. I would defer to more knowledgeable members on this Go This straight out slide perhaps was needed if this was built as an Eb and required a shorter second slide than a Bb and tooling made it convenient to set the slide straight out. I am unaware of any other Olds with straight out second slide. Olds as far as I am aware only changed the angle of the second valve in one other instrument and that was the Super, the very early supers had the slide angled towards the bell and later supers reversed this and angled the slide towards the receiver as in the mendez and the recording. The second slide appears to be set at a right angle to the body of the instrument whereas on Ambassadors the second slide is angled strongly back towards the mouthpiece receiver.ĭue to these differences I would guess that it is not a conversion from a Bb instrument but is an independently designed instrument.įor me the right angle of the second slide most strongly says this is a different instrument than a Bb Ambassador.

The end of the mouthpiece receiver is of course Fullerton Ambassador, being hexagonal. It looks like the spit valves on this instrument are more conventional spit valves typical of the Special, but the Ambassador spit valves are underslung spit valves. I dont believe this is likely to be a conversion from a Bb

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